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April 06 2015 @ 03:38 pm
109: "The Reckoning" Discussion Post  
As always, all book talk that doesn't pertain to the episodes we've seen is a SPOILER. Please use the SPOILER cut below.


Quick Cap:
Jamie learns Randall is the one who committed the murder he is blamed for which will do him no good in clearing his name. Willie rides up with new of Claire's capture. Jamie saves Claire from a very saddistic Black Jack Randall who is about to make good on all those threats to rape her when Jamie comes through the window. Jamie tricks BJR with an unloaded pistol and then knocks BJR out to save Claire. They flee Fort William by jumping off the outer wall into water.

On the side of the road, Jamie and Claire have a knockdown drag out but Jamie quickly realizes things are getting out of hand and tells her how scared he was to hear her scream. Claire apologizes for not listening to him and he apologizes for the things he said. When they arrive at the tavern to rendevous with Dougal, Claire realizes the men are angry with her and hopes they will forgive her. Murtagh tells Jamie Claire doesn't understand what she did and Jamie realizes he'd going to have to meet out justice 18th century style. Jamie joins Claire upstairs where Jamie is supposed to give her a good swatting but she fights like the dickens and even kicks him in the face BUTT in the end she gets her swats... and Jamie realizes that is going to put a wrench in happily ever after.

Back and Leoch Jamie gets in the middle of Castle politics when Colum takes the gold meant for the Jacobites effectively make the clan divide. Colum takes Jamie's advice and gives the gold to Dougal while bidding his time about what side to take in the Jacobite Cause. And if that wasn't rocky enough, Laoghaire is rather upset at Jamie's wedded status and apparently leaves a ill omen under Jamie and Claire's bed. But Jamie hasn't been sleeping in that bed with a rather angry Claire so to remedy that he makes her a pledge and she rocks his world... but not in bed... on the floor.

Discussion Points:

  1. Let's just get too it. What did you think of Claire's punishment?

  2. Talk about a nasty fight! What did you think of Claire's POV and Jamie's POV in that fight?

  3. Did you like that the episode was from Jamie's POV?

  4. Were you stunned that Dougal just came out and said he fathered Hamish?

  5. What did you think of Jamie's influence in the political climate of the McKenzie Clan?

  6. What did you think of Laoghaire (Leery) in this episode? The ill omen under the bed?

Feel free to pose anything else you wish to discuss from this episode or previous episodes. No spoilers please!

Outlander 109: The Reckoning Playlist:
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Jill aka Jo: Hug: Stock drawing on fingerssireesanwar on April 7th, 2015 11:50 pm (UTC)
I think so too. It perfectly displays the differences between 1743 and 1945. And I'm glad you just aren't saying it is abuse like so many others. It isn't the same because in context it is being punished from a crime against Clan. It isn't about Jamie just wanting to hurt her.

It is shocking but in some regards I almost wish there were still punishments that were similar... they hurt but weren't permanent. I'm not saying we need to go around spanking men and women but some people just seem to need something. *wink*

On an off point, I actually think this is what people think of when they think of spanking in general and I for one don't think that is actually the case.


I agree. It really does cut to the heart of it, no? I mean they were tiptoeing around each other before. Just being polite and nice and now they are ripping each other opened to see if they could work. They are being honest and just saying what they think hoping they can get the honesty out of the way and really feel more comfortable with each other. I loved it.
wings128: Outlander!logowings128 on April 8th, 2015 09:08 am (UTC)
1. Exactly.

4. All praise to the production crew of this show, and having Diana so intimately involved with the creation is definitely playing a role in lifting this relationship from the page. Visceral, vibrant, passionate, and real. Can't wait to see the rest of the eps. :)
Jill aka Josireesanwar on April 8th, 2015 10:14 pm (UTC)
I know. Is it Saturday already? I really want to watch the show now!