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August 08 2017 @ 08:34 am
Game of Thrones General Discussion: S07 E04  

Summary: Jaime and Bronn are overseeing the transport of the spoils from Highgarden back to King's Landing. The gold, of course, is all destined for the Iron Bank (Lannisters always pay their debts, remember). In King's Landing, Cersei and her local Iron Bank representative reach an agreement -- the Bank will back her "reunite the 7 kingdoms" effort -- once the existing debt is repaid, of course.

Meanwhile, up North, in Winterfell, the prodigal daughter, Arya finally arrives home and is reunited with Sansa and Bran. Her reunion with Sansa goes well -- although Sansa at first thinks Arya is joking about having a kill list. Then she sees her little sister skirmish with the mighty Brienne. Realization dawns that little sister may well indeed be a class A assassin... The reunion with Bran is what you'd expect now that Bran isn't Bran anymore. Bran has a tete-a-tete with Littlefinger, who gifted Bran with the dagger that was used in the attempt on Bran's life back in season 1. Bran completely weirds out Littlefinger by using his "chaos is a ladder" quote back at him -- thus letting Littlefinger know that Bran knows and sees everything. Bran also says goodbye to Meera as she takes leave of him to go back to her own people.

In Dragonstone (at Dragonstone?), Jon takes Dany into the dragonglass mine to show her ancient wall carvings done by the Children of the Forrest showing them working with the First Men to battle the Ice Zombies. He still won't bend the knee to her, however. They emerge from the cave to be greeted by Tyrion and Varys and the bad news about the fleet being lost at Casterly Rock. Dany is annoyed (to put it mildly) and less than impressed with Tyrion's battle strategy advice. She decides it's time to burn down King's Landing, but Jon talks her out of pursuing indisciminate burning and destroying. Theon arrives, Jon holds off killing him only because of what he did for Sansa, and Theon asks for help in rescuing his sister from Euron.

The episode ends with an epic battle as the Dothraki, led by Dany riding Drogon, attack the Lannister troops led by Jaime and Bronn. It's pretty horrific (sucks to be a horse in Game of Thrones), and the Lannister troops are clearly losing. Then Bronn gets to the giant anti-dragon crossbow, misses Drogon the first time around, but hits with on his second attempt. Drogon lands, destroys the cross-bow (but Bronn manages to escape). Dany is trying to pull the giant arrow out of Drogon's body when Jaime decides to attack -- though I'm not sure if he's trying to kill the dragon or attack/kill Dany. Drogon sees him approaching and blasts out a fiery blast of fire -- and at the seemingly last minute, someone -- maybe Bronn, maybe Dickon Tarly -- tackles Jaime and they both end up in water -- but it's not clear if they're alive, burned to a crisp, or only slighly roasted as the episode fades to black...
Jo Annyeuxdebleu on August 9th, 2017 02:08 am (UTC)
I thought this episode was brilliant...one of the best EVER.

Did you see this video?

siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on August 9th, 2017 01:15 pm (UTC)
I did not! Thanks for posting it. I'm technically-speaking on vacation this week, so haven't been doing much at the computer.
Jo Ann: GOT: Dragon puffs smokeyeuxdebleu on August 11th, 2017 01:48 am (UTC)
You're welcome!
Jill aka Jo: GOT: Sansa and Margaerysireesanwar on August 14th, 2017 07:02 pm (UTC)
I do love that a lot of the effects are real or practical effects like the explosion of the loot train and the Dotheraki standing on their horses. The idea of those stunt men being on fire is so terrifying.

If they up the ante every year I have to wonder what they will do for the next season because those dragons will get bigger... maybe.
Jo Ann: GOT: Dragon puffs smokeyeuxdebleu on August 15th, 2017 12:37 am (UTC)
The idea of those stunt men being on fire is so terrifying.

I know, right! In the video you can hear the safety crew counting to 12 then rushing in with the fire extinguishers.

I think the dragons are full grown now.
Jill aka Josireesanwar on August 17th, 2017 07:51 pm (UTC)
I heard that too and I was like... "PUT THEM OUT!" LOL

Okay good to know. I can't imagine them getting bigger.
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on August 9th, 2017 01:42 pm (UTC)
Very strong episode, I thought. I like the growing respect/attraction between Dany and Jon, although the attraction part might be more on Jon's part than Dany's. I always enjoy the smaller moments between certain characters, and in this episode, there were a few. For example, the girl talk between Missandei and Dany about what went on between Missandei and Greyworm; Davos teasing Jon about Dany; Jaime and Bronn's banter.

The scene between Bran and Littlefinger was interesting. I couldn't make out what Bran said to Littlefinger near the end -- even after "rewinding" and listening a few times over. I had to google to find out, and then had to google why that was significant because I honestly didn't remember it as being something Littlefinger had said back in season 3 or whenever he said it. But the focus on that dagger -- not just in that scene, but again when Bran and Arya reunite -- has to be an indication that the dagger is VERY IMPORTANT and will play some very prominent role before the series ends (if not this season, maybe next?). Also, Littlefinger has to know now that Bran knows everything -- meaning he would know that Littlefinger betrayed Ned, traded Sansa off to the Boltons, and all of his other double-dealings. Surely his days are increasingly numbered?

I get Jon not wanting to bend the knee to Dany because his people wouldn't accept that, but could he not do it in secret and they'd agree not to say he'd done that?

Why is Drogon the only dragon who gets to see any action? Speaking of dragons... Since Dany rides Drogon (named after her husband, Khal Drogo), I figure Jon will end up riding Rhaegal (named after his father). That leaves Viserion, named after Dany's brother. Not sure who would ride him -- Tyrion (the brother)?

Does anyone else find it surprising that the giant anti-dragon crossbow thing is REALLY easy to reload? Bronn had a second "arrow" in that thing in record time. I would have thought it might be a bit of a struggle for one person alone to reload.

I cannot wait for Jon (and everyone else) to learn of his true parentage.

Edited at 2017-08-09 01:45 pm (UTC)
Jill aka Jo: Blind: Janesireesanwar on August 14th, 2017 07:15 pm (UTC)
There is so much to love about this episode and I'm hoping what we see is Arya become Bran's protector because he will need it if he's going to poke at people like Littlefinger. I assume that dagger is very significant but I have no idea why.

I think they are trying to tell us that the Wildlings and the Westrosians worked together before they were called that? Is that what that means?

I do understand why Jon doesn't want to bend the knee to Dany too but I keep thinking this will be a continual problem between them unless it is angled that this is the only man who is really on her level playing into the romance which I'm not a fan of because of their relation. Eww.

I despise Theon even if he saved Sansa. I just want him gone but did they resolve going to save his sister?

The Loot Train Battle is so epic. I was just floored watching that. It so topped the Battle of the Bastards its not even funny.

And that crossbow thing when from giant to rather tiny compared to Drogon who seemed to be like... you stung but you stupid wasp. And the entire time Jaime is considering going for Dany I was yell... don't do it... DRAGON!!!!

I kept wondering why Bronn is even with Jaime considering he is more loyal to Tyrion and I know he wants riches but I have a feeling he's there to keep Jaime alive.

I love the small moment between Dany and Missandei. That was adorable which goes to show this fierce queen is a gal pal too.

I keep wondering whey Drogon is the only one fighting too but then I think he's Danys favorite because she loved Drogo. He's named for him and so she chooses to ride him. Also I think he might be bigger than the others.

Yeah that seemed to easy to reload. I wouldn't have minded if Bronn had dragged some men with him who helped and they just died when Drogon destroyed the crossbow.

This parentage thing with Jon is killing me. When the season ends I may watch it all over in a binge because I feel it is necessary with this season.