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September 10 2017 @ 03:12 pm
Can we revamp the spoiler policy?  
With season 3 starting today, I'd like to propose a new approach re: spoilers.

Outlander presents a major challenge when it comes to spoilers because the fan base is so diverse. Some have read all the books (several times) and are totally current with the show; others are TV only people and have no interest in the books; some have read the books, but are behind re: the series because it doesn't air at the same time in their country; some read the books, but only concurrently with, or after the corresponding TV series; and some have read all the books, sort of -- they only read the bits featuring Jamie and Claire and skip or at best skim read the other parts (I'm not kidding -- I've read comments elsewhere from people who do this). Because of this, it's virtually impossible to even guess at what might constitute a spoiler for someone else.

So rather than put the onus on people starting discussions or replying to discussions to try and guess what might be a spoiler, how about we put the onus on readers. I'm thinking something like this:

For posts discussing the current season (either the general discussion thread that will be started for each new episode, or any thread started relating to something raised in an episode), we do the following:

  1. Warn of spoilers in the Subject, e.g. Episode 301 General Discussion *SPOILERS*

  2. Begin the post with a general disclaimer along the lines of "WARNING: This post and discussion may contain spoilers for anyone who is not current with the Starz series Outlander (including seasons 1 and 2) or who has not read the first three books in the series."

  3. Put the rest of the entry behind a cut.

  4. When replying to the post, or to other replies made in the thread, no spoiler warnings or cuts will be required. This will make the replies easier to read because there won't be LJ spoiler cuts all overthe place. It will also make it easier to comment since one won't have to worry about putting things behind spoiler cuts or trying to figure out if something is even a spoiler.

Again, the onus will be on those who are not up-to-date to avoid having things spoiled for them by not reading the comments on these entries until they have caught up with the series.

Jo Ann: Out: Jamie dresses oath takingyeuxdebleu on September 10th, 2017 11:10 pm (UTC)
I think these are very wise choices. It is nearly impossible to avoid spoilers when the show airs at different times/dates across the globe.

Also, as you said, there's the problem of book readers vs. TV viewers.

It will be impossible to please everyone, but I think your ideas are by far the best way to handle the situation.
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on September 11th, 2017 10:42 am (UTC)
We could add another point -- if it's a thread about the TV show, e.g. then comments should be limited to the show and not start bringing points from the books. That way, people who've seen the show but not read the book(s) yet but plan to won't have to avoid the thread. And if there is something the show raised that deviates a lot from the book and someone wants to pursue that discussion, start a new post to discuss it, or something along those lines.
Jill aka Jo: Outlander: Mark me Jamessireesanwar on September 11th, 2017 06:49 pm (UTC)
So what you are thinking is two discussions... one for book readers and one for tv watchers....

Or is it that your saying that the spoiler point is always the most recent episode point even for the books?
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on September 11th, 2017 07:08 pm (UTC)
Mostly saying that if it's a thread about the show, e.g. an episode discussion thread, that we as commenters try as much as possible to just discuss the show -- what we saw in the episode. If, for example, there's a huge plot deviation from the book (like that Laoghaire thing in 208), that we not start discussing that in the context of how things played out in the book, only how it works in the show. If we want to discuss how that plays out in the book, then start a different discussion to focus on that specific book/show deviation.

Does that make sense, or is that getting overly complicated?
Jill aka Jo: Blind: Janesireesanwar on September 11th, 2017 11:11 pm (UTC)
No that makes sense. We can definitely do that.
Jill aka Josireesanwar on September 11th, 2017 11:23 pm (UTC)
So what I'm thinking of doing is changing the general rules which have a link on the sidebar to:

Seperate TV and Book posts discussion. Keep them seperate.

Then when you post the subject needs to be:

Book Discussion: title
Episode Discussion: title

That way people know what they are clicking on.

Should we say, don't talk past what the post is about for books or do people need to say that is a spoiler if they are talking about it... or leave it up to people who are reading?

What do you think?
siobhan63siobhan63 on September 12th, 2017 10:46 am (UTC)
Yep, sounds good!
Jill aka Josireesanwar on September 12th, 2017 06:12 pm (UTC)
Great... I'll put them in the post for the episode with a link to where they are too.
Jo Ann: AG: GIF Jesse nodding yesyeuxdebleu on September 11th, 2017 11:26 pm (UTC)
Yes, that would work.