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September 13 2017 @ 12:11 pm
Possible book/TV deviation for season 03? *SPOILERS*  
***Warning -- this post discusses the novel Voyager, and possible book/TV show plot deviations going forward in season 03. If you have not read the books up to and including book 3 (Voyager), there will be spoilers!!***

This is about Murtagh.
What has become of Murtagh? In ep 301, we see him briefly on the battlefield -- he has a quick word with Jamie and then he's off battling again. But that's it. In the farmhouse after the battle, Jamie asks about him and no one knows what became of Murtagh.

In Voyager, without knowing how or why, Jamie realizes, when he regains consciousness on the battlefield at Culloden, that Murtagh must be dead. Twenty years later, when Claire has returned to him, Jamie tells her about how he found Murtagh, near death, though the man had enough strength left to say to Jamie, "Dinna be afraid, a bhalaich. It doesna hurt a bit to die."

So in the books, as far as we know up to and including book 8, Murtagh is dead. And this might be the case in the series as well. However, while live-tweeting the episode, Caitriona replied to a tweet asking if we'd find out what happened to Murtagh this way:

Now, maybe it will just be a flashback scene later in the series, when Claire and Jamie are back together, similar to what happened in the book -- Jamie remembering how he found Murtagh near death on the battlefield.

But what if it's not? What if they don't kill Murtagh in the series? What if they replaced some other character with Murtagh going forward? The logical one for me would be Duncan Innes, and I've not read anything that anyone's been cast in that role. IMDB has what looks like a pretty complete cast listing, and there's no character "Duncan Innes" listed. Jamie meets Duncan in Ardsmuir prison, and finds him again later in Edinburgh, and Duncan sails with Jamie and Claire to Jamaica, so if they'd cast that character, you think he'd be listed as he'd be in a fair few episodes.

So what do you think? Have the producers decided to #saveMurtagh afterall?
Jill aka Josireesanwar on September 13th, 2017 09:28 pm (UTC)
I kind of doubt they are going to let Murtagh live. They never told us about Lord Melton either but we have him so I'm wondering if they are going to downplay Duncan. I'd love to see Murtagh moving on but that would change a lot.

I honestly think we'll see Jamie remember his death.
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on September 14th, 2017 10:46 am (UTC)
You're likely right, but one can hope! I can easily imagine that production-wise, they'd probably prefer to either not have to try to find an actor already missing an arm, or have to CGI the missing limb in every shot. Dropping the Duncan character and replacing him with Murtagh would solve that.

The casting announcements this season were sporadic at best -- the main PR person was off on maternity leave. Maril did mention a few times on social media that Hal had been cast, she just didn't say who was playing him.
Jill aka Josireesanwar on October 13th, 2017 06:24 pm (UTC)
I was wrong. They let him life. I hope he's in the Colonies too then. I want more Murtagh. I would be fine with him replacing Duncan. I like Duncan but that would have been a hard character.
caitri: bookscaitri on September 14th, 2017 04:41 am (UTC)
I've got my fingers crossed they keep Murtagh. As you point out, Duncan Innes isn't listed, and it would be easy enough to streamline things a bit for Murtagh to take that role in the plot (which is an important role once they get to the colonies).
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on September 14th, 2017 10:48 am (UTC)
I was going over the IMDB cast list again and noticed that a few other characters aren't listed -- including at least one that we know has been cast -- Mr. Willoughby. So the IMDB list isn't complete. So I'm likely wrong -- it was just fun to speculate given Cait's tweet and that she said in an interview afterwards that she may have divulged a spoiler while live tweeting the episode. That was the only tweet of hers that struck me as being the one she meant.