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October 25 2017 @ 01:29 pm
Episode Discuss: 306 A. Malcolm  
After decades apart, Jamie and Claire finally reunite and rekindle their emotional and physical bonds. But Jamie's new business dealings jeopardize the couples’ hopes for a simple life together.

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Jill aka Jo: Happy: Excited Owlsireesanwar on October 25th, 2017 08:40 pm (UTC)
I had some major issues with this episode. I wanted to love it but I had to rate it a 4 because it went from this epic idea of these two reuniting to what we saw. There were a lot of changes to this part of the story. Typically I don't mind changes but Jamie's glasses was a big change considering going forward in the books it is a "thing" how well Jamie can see.

The entire Young Ian seen was terrible for me. He didn't seem like the mischievous boy who was always getting himself into trouble. And technically that isn't how he met Claire. I prefer the book version.

I did appreciate a lot that the sex scenes played out pretty well leaving in the humor and awkwardness of their reunion.

I loved Mr. Willoughby's intro because it was downplayed as it should have been. He seemed more like a man and less like a joke.

And did we have to have another rape moment? I mean so every time Claire has gone from the future to the past she was attacked with attempted rape (as we don't know what is going to happen next week). Why? First, not in the book. She has an encounter but nothing like this.

We and Jamie meet Sir Perceval Turner in the cellar? And it is all threats and dire warnings which could work but wouldn't it be better for it to be a more subtle threat and in the presence of Claire? LIKE THE BOOK.

I think the writers are doing rather well but sometimes they take the intrigue and danger out of a moment. And the humor! Jamie is funny.

I did love the whore's breakfast scene though wouldn't it have been lovely if Madame Jeanne had actually called her Madame Malcolm so the girls would know who she was? However, I like how Claire sat down with them and blushed over their noticing the aftermath of her steamy time with Jamie.

And the thing I loved the most about this episode is that in the intimate scenes where Jamie and Claire are making love or lying next to each other, it is as if they are in each others orbit. Sleeping and being aware of each other. Watching and relearning. Cait and Sam really convey the "newness" of being with one another.
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on October 26th, 2017 10:45 am (UTC)
And did we have to have another rape moment? I mean so every time Claire has gone from the future to the past she was attacked with attempted rape (as we don't know what is going to happen next week). Why? First, not in the book. She has an encounter but nothing like this.

We and Jamie meet Sir Perceval Turner in the cellar? And it is all threats and dire warnings which could work but wouldn't it be better for it to be a more subtle threat and in the presence of Claire? LIKE THE BOOK.


Time, time, time... all the convoluted related-to-smuggling plotlines had to be condensed because 307 has to cover everything up to Jamie and Claire ending up back at Lallybroch. So much like the more convoluted plotlines of Season 2, things have to be changed/condensed/sped up/characters merged, etc. But I'm sure you know that deep down inside. Ep 307 is going to be a very busy one -- bad dude gets killed (that's in the teaser for the ep so not a spoiler if you've seen the teaser), the print shop fire, maybe the attempted ambush near Arbroath (don't know if that will be included or if they'll change that plot).

I LOVED Young Ian. John Bell is soo good!


Edited at 2017-10-26 10:50 am (UTC)
Jill aka Josireesanwar on October 26th, 2017 08:54 pm (UTC)
I realized after my post that we aren't doing very well with the whole no spoiler thing. I don't know. I just had such feelings about this episode.

And I don't think there was not enough time to have them sit down and eat and have Sir Perceval come to them. They could have done it that way. Jamie could have said his peace and then whisked Claire away.

I don't think the episode was so much rushed as they ignored everything else for a prolonged sex session.

I will wait to see if Young Ian get better for me.
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on October 26th, 2017 10:47 am (UTC)
I have a confession to make. The first time I watched ep. 306, it left me... oddly unmoved. I don't know why -- maybe because of all of the hype around it and how excited everyone online seemed to be about it, my expectations were too high? I don't know. All I do know is that it certainly didn't speak to me on an emotional level the way earlier episodes of season 3 did. Which isn't to say that I didn't enjoy it, or that it was a bad episode or anything like that -- I just didn't enjoy it as much as I was expecting to.

My second time watching it was a bit better. Maybe because I lowered my own expectations? But I still have to say that I felt more of an emotional "oomph" from other episodes this season. But that was just me. I'm likely just really odd.

Anyway... there were some interesting changes from the book and I'm pretty much OK with all of them.

I liked that they gave us Jamie's point-of-view of Claire's return. It is easy to forget that while Claire had weeks (months?) to prepare for the fact that she was going back and would likely see Jamie again, Jamie had no idea she was suddenly going to materialize in the flesh in his shop. So yeah... it would have been a bit of a shock and it was nice to see it that way.

One thing I noticed in this episode more than in any of the others -- I think the show has given up on trying to convey that the 4th finger of Jamie's left hand was all but useless after being smashed by Black Jack back in Wentworth prison. In season 2, Sam would try to make it stick out more, but it was working just fine in this episode.

Sam and Cait were, as usual, very lovely as Jamie and Claire. The whole reunion part in the brothel was very close to the book and nicely done, but -- again this is probably just me being weird -- I don't really give a toss about the sex scenes and could live quite happily without out them. Not because I'm a prude, just because I really don't care about other people's sex lives (real or fictional). I skip those bits in the books, and have even fastforwarded through them during rewatches of some season 1 episodes. I'm probably the only person out there who didn't mind at all that season 2 has nowhere near as much sex as the book did. I appreciate it more when the connection and closeness between the two of them is implied or conveyed by the way they look at each other, or through small touches between the two, rather than actually shown via all-out sex scenes. But again, that's just me. I'm odd. I know.

I was completely underwhelmed by Jamie's Culloden scar on his thigh. I thought it would be much nastier-looking based on book descriptions.

One scene I did like a lot during the brothel reunion part was when Jamie says to Claire that the two of them will live forever through Brianna, and Claire gets very emotional and tears up. I wondered if it was because she'd never thought of Brianna that way, or if it was just because it made her miss Brianna/feel guilty or sad about having left her behind.

I adore John Bell as Young Ian. Am so looking forward to his character's development and future story lines.

I also adored César Domboy as older Fergus. His English is much better than I was expecting (I've seen only short interview clips of him), but then again, Fergus has spent most of his life in Scotland now, so yes, you'd expect his English would be very good.

The whores' breakfast was probably my favourite scene.
Jill aka Jo: Movie: Aladdin - Genie Applausesireesanwar on October 26th, 2017 09:12 pm (UTC)
I actually felt the same way. I felt like it was going to be great and then it just fell a little flat. Personally I was happier to see Murtagh and Jamie together over Jamie and Claire. That made me weepy. Plus we had Claire say several times, "I thought you were dead" but the emotional weight didn't seem to be there.

I like that we started off with it being Jamie's day and he's just going about his business.

I can deal with his finger as long as it pains him sometimes.

I don't think it is prudish. I still don't understand why you'd want to watch people having sex. I prefer the cleaner sex scenes in shows were it is more eluded too.

Me too on his Culloden scar. I do wonder if they are going for easy makeup there considering his back must take a ton of time.

I love the live forever scene too because it is essentially the way we do live forever and he's telling her she remembers and will pass them on.

I didn't have enough time to love Cesar or John but I love both characters in the books.

I didn't like the Young Ian scene because it was completely altered. He came in and was like... oh your my Auntie Claire wow are you a fairy. I did like him asking if she lived in a Dun. But I really wanted him to think her a prostitute and then be shocked when he learns his father knows her. Not hard.

I think getting more in depth with Fergus and Ian will be great. Granted I don't know how much in depth we will get with Young Ian but I know this is more of a get to know Fergus book.