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December 05 2017 @ 11:17 am
Episode Discuss: 312 The Bakra  
Young Ian is in Jamaica and with Geillis Duncan who is up to her witchy and really crazy ways. She's in search of the sapphires in the treasure from Selkie Island, one of which, Jamie gave to Lord John.

Jamie and Claire finally make it to Jamaica where they go in search for Young Ian only to find themselves the owner of another human being much to Claire's horror. Claire and Jamie tell Temerarire they will free him as soon as they are away from the city. They ask Temeraire to help them speak to the Governor's slaves about Young Ian in hopes that someone has seen him.

At the Governor's ball the realizes there are several old friends and acquaintances around when Lord John Grey turns out to the the governor, Geillis turns up alive, and The Campbells appear to do readings for guests.

Jamie and John share a reunion in front of Claire which leaves Claire feeling a little uneasy. Geillis return brings out more uneasiness as she describes her escape from the pyre and the death of her most recent husband.

Geillis has the Campbell's tell fortunes at the Governor's ball and when Margaret holds all three sapphires a truly crazy prophecy comes to light.

Another acquaintance in the form of Captain Leonard appears and everyone flees so Jamie isn't arrested. Temeraire tells Jamie Young Ian was spotted at Rose Hall which is Mistress Abernathy's plantation. Jamie and Claire drop Temeraire off where he knows he can find refugee with maroons and then head to Rose Hall but are stopped when Captain Leonard appears and takes Jamie prisoner.

What did you think?

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siobhan63siobhan63 on December 5th, 2017 08:24 pm (UTC)
You know what, people? I don't think I'm going to reread any of the books ever again. Certainly not while the show is airing. I will read new ones that come out, but from now on, I'm just going with the show because I honestly prefer what they've been doing to what was written.

So this ep, yeah? Geillis! Lord John! What can I say -- both Lotte Verbeek and David Berry are sooooo good in those roles. Geillis was in full-on unhinged witchy mode and it was brilliant. From the moment her leg popped out of the blood bath to her machinations to get her hands on the third sapphire in order for Margaret to do the prophecy, Geillis just stole every scene she was in. In the "Inside the World of Outlander" clip for this episode, Matt B. Roberts mentioned how great she is to work with and how they'd even tried to think of ways to get her into season 2 because they love how she brings Geillis to life. I totally get that.

Then the Jamie-Lord John reunion! First tho -- that LOOK -- the one Jamie and Claire exchanged while they were waiting in the receiving line to meet the Governor -- wow.... I mean... just wow... I felt like I was intruding while watching the scene. And it set up nicely for the look Lord John gave Jamie -- and Claire and Lord John's wariness of each other. I love David Berry in this role so much -- I really hope the series continues into the later books, where LJG has a larger role.

I really loved this episode. As I've been saying, the show is doing such a good job of taking Diana Gabaldon's often overly-convoluted (and often really nonsensical) plot lines and making them work without losing the essence of the story. This episode continued that beautifully. If I have any criticism, it was the whole Captain Leonard thing. Dude, just f*** off already. Really don't know why they felt it was necessary to have Jamie arrested -- AGAIN. I'm guessing it's so Lord John can be all heroic and free him (again) maybe?

Added note: if any of you are on Twitter at all, and if you love the costumes on the show, you really should follow Terry Dresbach's professional twitter account. She provides so much background on the challenges involved re: the costuming, plus history re: the evolution of women's fashion (in particular), and of clothes in general, shares production sketches, her idea books for the various characters, etc.

Jill aka Jo: BBT: Hit Me Amysireesanwar on December 6th, 2017 12:33 am (UTC)
LOL Right. I'm loving the show and while I really like the books the less I remember the better although I'm a virtual encyclopedia of Outlander.

Lotte and David were amazing. I especially loved David. The John and Jamie reunion was so full of tension and it was very clear John wanted to just say... "I love you!" And Jamie was so happy to see his friend and possibly get news of Willie. With Claire standing by looking like she was intruding. So good.

I also didn't feel like when John was talking to Claire he was trying to be polite and kind and in the book you feel a little like they are in competition. Of course it was nice that Claire was privy to everything so I will grudgingly say that I'm okay with Jamie telling her about Willie but the moment just seemed wrong when he did it.

I remember this part in the book, Jamie was questioned but not arrested. I never understood why unless Leonard was never part of that conversation. And I felt a little like it wouldn't happen like that. Lord John is the governor but he's also a ranking officer. I feel like Leonard would have come to him. I'm actually hoping there is a moment when Lord John does step in for Jamie. Making Jamie one of his agents or something.

I love learning about the costumes. I guess people were annoyed with Jamie's wig and how bad it looked. It was realistic for the times. But not really for him.

OH John having that sapphire Jamie handed over to him set so he could wear it. WOW. John has a romantic heart.

What did you think of the Temeraire stuff?
siobhan63: powerpuffmesiobhan63 on December 6th, 2017 11:43 am (UTC)
Jamie was questioned because the murder had occurred at the ball and everyone thought Yi Teng Cho was the guilty party. And since Jamie had brought him, they needed to question him (plus they all thought he was French, remember?). They left out the whole murder/Edinburgh Fiend subplot from the show, so it just felt a bit excessive to have Jamie arrested again -- adds one more dilemma to what will be a very busy finale.

If we don't get a Lord John Grey spin-off, I will be very sad. I can't believe how much I love David Berry in this role because I am largely indifferent to LJG in the books!

I thought the Temeraire/slave market bits were done well. Obviously, since they'd left out the pirate attack, and the capture of the black pirate (Ishmael? can't recall his name), they had to do things differently, and I think this worked. I have seen some complaints online about "white saviour complex" or something, but meh -- given the time constraints, I think they did a very good job in handling the matter.

There is definitely some tension between LJG and Claire -- not book-level, but I'm OK with that because I felt book Claire went a bit overboard in her animosity towards LJG -- I never understood why she carried that grudge/dislike/whatever it was for so long (across most of the books). I can relate to her shock at seeing the obvious affection Jamie has for LJG, but I never understood her long-drawn out dislike of him in the books.

The finale will be only a hour long! :( That's going to be one jam-packed show....
Jill aka Josireesanwar on January 11th, 2018 07:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I know but it seemed weird he was wanted and just slipped through their fingers at every turn. But then the magic of storytelling.

I could take it or leave it really.

It pisses me off when they say things like that. What did they expect? If they had done nothing at all to help then they'd be called racists. You can't win.

Well, I can imagine not liking someone who is in love with your husband. Seems like a human response. I also think she tried to justify her dislike but as the story progressed she didn't have a choice but to admit she rather likes John.
siobhan63siobhan63 on December 6th, 2017 11:48 am (UTC)
Forgot to add -- I actually liked Jamie in that wig! I thought he looked quite elegant. Then again, I also like the tricorn hats (I've seen lots of people complaining about those as well).
Jill aka Josireesanwar on January 11th, 2018 07:37 pm (UTC)
I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either. I mean I expected it because I know the books.